EndlessWait
02-24 09:22 PM
You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship? I don't see this going very far. I can see anti immigrants waiting for this one. Best is to lobby using aides of big corporations, developing relationship with lobbyists who already have connections, hiring lawyers, developing strong case, donations in election campaigns etc. All of this needs loads and loads of money. Are we ready to donate to IV and build strong lobbying group for our cause? That is the only way to change our current situation.
Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.
For those who think assisting US economy by buy houses (for pending GC applicants) is like selling a GC are just plain dumb! No wonder why we dont have a resolution to the 10 yr waiting that's been killing EB immigrants, is because ppl like you, who love to take pain want others to live through this for the lifetime.
People have been waiting for 10+ years here waiting to get GC, waiting patiently, waiting so patiently that we are getting mentally sick waiting and waiting. How do u think the quota system is ..its not fair in the first place for EB immigrants when we are already here on H/L visas... . So dude pls stop ur bull shit and dont discourage by coming up with ridiculous statements "You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship?"
We the prospective, EB immigrants want to settle here. Its more than a home here already if you are living and paying taxes for 10+ years.. We just want to buy a house and a permanent visa status is only going to help. Its a win-win situation for both sides....
We are not looking them to sell GC for houses to ppl who are residing outside. This is a relief mechanism for ppl who are waiting and waiting and just plain waiting here in the EB queue!
Ok.. now go and think..do u enjoy pain or want to do anything about it!
I would strongly urge IV to take this and would be willing help and have a dialogue with any state/congress representative they want me to.... How do u think it wont' fly. US govt is spending and bailing out trillions of dollars to help cure this cause. If we buy houses, it is only going to help the cause. Most of us have good credit score and can afford to buy houses, this will only help the very thing that the govt. is trying to stabilize.
I'm surprised, how come IV is not aggressively pursuing this. What better way to help everyone here. If they want to address the fundamental issues they certainly can, but this the immediate focus and like quota recapture, will provide immediate relief to decades long wait for applicants!
So pls stop disparaging the effort. Its a good cause for both sides.
We want to be a permanent resident and contribute to US economy. So help us god!
Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.
For those who think assisting US economy by buy houses (for pending GC applicants) is like selling a GC are just plain dumb! No wonder why we dont have a resolution to the 10 yr waiting that's been killing EB immigrants, is because ppl like you, who love to take pain want others to live through this for the lifetime.
People have been waiting for 10+ years here waiting to get GC, waiting patiently, waiting so patiently that we are getting mentally sick waiting and waiting. How do u think the quota system is ..its not fair in the first place for EB immigrants when we are already here on H/L visas... . So dude pls stop ur bull shit and dont discourage by coming up with ridiculous statements "You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship?"
We the prospective, EB immigrants want to settle here. Its more than a home here already if you are living and paying taxes for 10+ years.. We just want to buy a house and a permanent visa status is only going to help. Its a win-win situation for both sides....
We are not looking them to sell GC for houses to ppl who are residing outside. This is a relief mechanism for ppl who are waiting and waiting and just plain waiting here in the EB queue!
Ok.. now go and think..do u enjoy pain or want to do anything about it!
I would strongly urge IV to take this and would be willing help and have a dialogue with any state/congress representative they want me to.... How do u think it wont' fly. US govt is spending and bailing out trillions of dollars to help cure this cause. If we buy houses, it is only going to help the cause. Most of us have good credit score and can afford to buy houses, this will only help the very thing that the govt. is trying to stabilize.
I'm surprised, how come IV is not aggressively pursuing this. What better way to help everyone here. If they want to address the fundamental issues they certainly can, but this the immediate focus and like quota recapture, will provide immediate relief to decades long wait for applicants!
So pls stop disparaging the effort. Its a good cause for both sides.
We want to be a permanent resident and contribute to US economy. So help us god!
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chanduv23
10-15 12:28 PM
Oh no wonder this guy was sitting quite.. Probably he was waiting for everyone to leave... :D:D
Oh I forgot to mention.. I reached home at 11 and found several envelopes laying on the floor at my doorsteps..
I received my receipts, FP notice and EAD all at same time.. YAHHHHHOOOOOOOO
USCIS found out that I attended IV Social Event and sent me my EAD ;)..
Your journey towards victory starts from here. Congrats for all those documents
Oh I forgot to mention.. I reached home at 11 and found several envelopes laying on the floor at my doorsteps..
I received my receipts, FP notice and EAD all at same time.. YAHHHHHOOOOOOOO
USCIS found out that I attended IV Social Event and sent me my EAD ;)..
Your journey towards victory starts from here. Congrats for all those documents
ca_immigrant
06-09 08:03 PM
now with folks trying to buy guns...can we expect any forced forward movement or recapture of visa numbers ?:D
I mean can the gun be put to some good use....:D
I mean can the gun be put to some good use....:D
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pcs
04-03 12:36 PM
I know, you guys are all over it & can not disclose everything. However in order to keep team moral high please do confirm that Hard CAP & I-485 filing in very much ON.
I know you guys are on it but for the sake of emotional confort, please mention it once again
Thanks
I know you guys are on it but for the sake of emotional confort, please mention it once again
Thanks
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genscn
06-25 03:37 PM
Based on what's mentioned on AP form 131, she need to be present in US to file for renewal and if she travel outside the country during the time of renewal, her 485 application would be deemed abandoned.
Guru s
I have a question on my wife' AP renewal
My wife would like travel to India and come back in November or Dec 2008.she would like to leave on August Last week
Any way we would like appy for renewal of AP , the current which expires on Oct 30 2008.
Let us say if we apply for AP Renewal July 2- or July 3 , the new AP may come before her Journey date Augut 2008 , OR It may not come before her Journey date Augut 2008 .
Since her current AP expires on Oct 30 2008 , Does she need to come back to USA before Oct 30 2008 ? or can we mail extended AP to India , if she is travelling back after Oct 30 in November or December
please advise us , accordingly we will make travel plans
1. ..If we can mail the her New Advance Parole document to India.
2. Can she Leave the country while her AP in Process
Guru s
I have a question on my wife' AP renewal
My wife would like travel to India and come back in November or Dec 2008.she would like to leave on August Last week
Any way we would like appy for renewal of AP , the current which expires on Oct 30 2008.
Let us say if we apply for AP Renewal July 2- or July 3 , the new AP may come before her Journey date Augut 2008 , OR It may not come before her Journey date Augut 2008 .
Since her current AP expires on Oct 30 2008 , Does she need to come back to USA before Oct 30 2008 ? or can we mail extended AP to India , if she is travelling back after Oct 30 in November or December
please advise us , accordingly we will make travel plans
1. ..If we can mail the her New Advance Parole document to India.
2. Can she Leave the country while her AP in Process
kartikiran
01-22 10:26 AM
Pappu,
Thanks for the response.
Not to offend anybody. but if you take a look at the sample of this thread as you can see the topic of discussion has moved from an action item to statistics estimate.
I admire IV and all its administrators, because grassroots efforts are never easy. IV along with its admins, has definitely had done a lot of hard work to reach to this stage.
At the same time, I would appreciate all senior members, and whoever reading this to keep the discussions more as a follow-up on action items.
Irrespective of statistics and the decision-makings of USCIS, it is very evident that some form of law changes must occur to clean-up this GC process.
As step 1 is bring an awareness among senators/congressmen and including the president that there is a problem that exists. I think this must be the only focus now to bring the problem in front with all the other problems that exist right now in front of the american politicians.
Again my 2 cents.
Thanks for the response.
Not to offend anybody. but if you take a look at the sample of this thread as you can see the topic of discussion has moved from an action item to statistics estimate.
I admire IV and all its administrators, because grassroots efforts are never easy. IV along with its admins, has definitely had done a lot of hard work to reach to this stage.
At the same time, I would appreciate all senior members, and whoever reading this to keep the discussions more as a follow-up on action items.
Irrespective of statistics and the decision-makings of USCIS, it is very evident that some form of law changes must occur to clean-up this GC process.
As step 1 is bring an awareness among senators/congressmen and including the president that there is a problem that exists. I think this must be the only focus now to bring the problem in front with all the other problems that exist right now in front of the american politicians.
Again my 2 cents.
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she81
09-27 02:23 PM
I guess using our degrees to pass on a message is a fool-proof idea. That can immediately catch on with media like flowers did. If not stoppers, we can write our message in bold colors on the degrees.
Indeed thoughtful. I'm all in for it.
Indeed thoughtful. I'm all in for it.
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saimrathi
07-09 01:08 PM
I saw the thread about the negative comments on Fox... Can you please direct me to MSNBC's coverage on this?
Mainstream media seem to be cautious about these issues as it may work against their self interests.
I am still surprised that CNN did not pick this though MSNBC (did a positive) and FOX (Did a negative) on this
Mainstream media seem to be cautious about these issues as it may work against their self interests.
I am still surprised that CNN did not pick this though MSNBC (did a positive) and FOX (Did a negative) on this
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snehaledu
04-14 11:12 AM
IT and BPO outsourcing is also leading to Americanization of Indian youth and Indian youth are spending their high salaries on American products. In no time you will see American fast food chains, groceries, and many American MNCs cashing on a Americanized Indian crowd and neutralize ( and will eventually exceed the investments they make).
This is the beginning of Americanization. Most of you will not understand what I say because you are here in US for a long time and being first generation immigrants (on a limbo) keep up with your tradition. Americanization is like a slow bleed. IT and BPO is investment. Returns will come in form of MNCs and businesses and finally benefit American economy.
Just go back to India and look into the ITand BPO companies and lifestyles of people there. it will be 5 times higher than what we follow here as the Americanization is already induced.
Bottomline, do not underestimate America. They know what they do.
You are right they know what they do but it will be beneficial for US economy only. In terms to USD to INR, we will lose. Check the history and present.
In case of Japan, Yen was fixed to 360 Y to 1 $ in 1949.
�By 1971 the yen had become undervalued. Japanese exports were costing too little in international markets, and imports from abroad were costing the Japanese too much. This undervaluation was reflected in the current account balance, which had risen from the deficits of the early 1960s to a then-large surplus of U.S. $5.8 billion in 1971. The belief that the yen, and several other major currencies, were undervalued motivated the United States' actions in 1971.�
�Following the United States' measures to devalue the dollar in the summer of 1971, the Japanese government agreed to a new, fixed exchange rate as part of the Smithsonian Agreement, signed at the end of the year. This agreement set the exchange rate at �308 per US$1.�
�In 1985 a dramatic change began. Finance officials from major nations signed an agreement (the Plaza Accord) affirming that the dollar was overvalued (and, therefore, the yen undervalued). This agreement, and shifting supply and demand pressures in the markets, led to a rapid rise in the value of the yen. From its average of �239 per US$1 in 1985, the yen rose to a peak of �128 in 1988, virtually doubling its value relative to the dollar. After declining somewhat in 1989 and 1990, it reached a new high of �123 to US$1 in December 1992. In April 1995, the yen hit a peak of under 80 yen per dollar, temporarily making Japan's economy nearly the size of the US.�
This way both US and Japan economies are stabilized now but Yen value became high from 360 to 115 per dollar now.
It is happening with China also. Us is pressing China to raise the value of Yuan and devalue dollar against Yuan so US exports can be cheaper in China and Chinese exports can be expensive in US.
Future is India. After too much of outsourcing, INR will raise again USD and my guestimate is 1 USD to 20 INR after 10 years.
Time to convert all savings in INR.
This is the beginning of Americanization. Most of you will not understand what I say because you are here in US for a long time and being first generation immigrants (on a limbo) keep up with your tradition. Americanization is like a slow bleed. IT and BPO is investment. Returns will come in form of MNCs and businesses and finally benefit American economy.
Just go back to India and look into the ITand BPO companies and lifestyles of people there. it will be 5 times higher than what we follow here as the Americanization is already induced.
Bottomline, do not underestimate America. They know what they do.
You are right they know what they do but it will be beneficial for US economy only. In terms to USD to INR, we will lose. Check the history and present.
In case of Japan, Yen was fixed to 360 Y to 1 $ in 1949.
�By 1971 the yen had become undervalued. Japanese exports were costing too little in international markets, and imports from abroad were costing the Japanese too much. This undervaluation was reflected in the current account balance, which had risen from the deficits of the early 1960s to a then-large surplus of U.S. $5.8 billion in 1971. The belief that the yen, and several other major currencies, were undervalued motivated the United States' actions in 1971.�
�Following the United States' measures to devalue the dollar in the summer of 1971, the Japanese government agreed to a new, fixed exchange rate as part of the Smithsonian Agreement, signed at the end of the year. This agreement set the exchange rate at �308 per US$1.�
�In 1985 a dramatic change began. Finance officials from major nations signed an agreement (the Plaza Accord) affirming that the dollar was overvalued (and, therefore, the yen undervalued). This agreement, and shifting supply and demand pressures in the markets, led to a rapid rise in the value of the yen. From its average of �239 per US$1 in 1985, the yen rose to a peak of �128 in 1988, virtually doubling its value relative to the dollar. After declining somewhat in 1989 and 1990, it reached a new high of �123 to US$1 in December 1992. In April 1995, the yen hit a peak of under 80 yen per dollar, temporarily making Japan's economy nearly the size of the US.�
This way both US and Japan economies are stabilized now but Yen value became high from 360 to 115 per dollar now.
It is happening with China also. Us is pressing China to raise the value of Yuan and devalue dollar against Yuan so US exports can be cheaper in China and Chinese exports can be expensive in US.
Future is India. After too much of outsourcing, INR will raise again USD and my guestimate is 1 USD to 20 INR after 10 years.
Time to convert all savings in INR.
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09-20 09:48 AM
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chanduv23
07-31 12:31 PM
I can understand cases where dates are current. But how they decide on cases which might have "visas available in coming months"? Do they know beforehand the movement of dates for coming months? or does that mean they continue pre-adjudicating cases in an order (probably by Priority Date)?
Well - from what I understand is that - these are the low hanging fruits - just like how you optimize time and resources, they pick candidates that are approvable and and utilize the time to process.
It is actually meaningless unless they make it public - say - send a letter saying that your case is preadjudicated and all we are doing here is waiting for the number.
If it is something internal - then well as long as your file is lying on the shelf waiting for visa availability internal policies may change anytime.
The entire preadjudication thing was started at the peak of economic turmoil - some say it was planned to weed out as many bad apples as possible from the GC queue by issuing denials, noids and rfes - if this is the case - then this will continue to happen as long as economy does not improve and job market is still bad.
Well - from what I understand is that - these are the low hanging fruits - just like how you optimize time and resources, they pick candidates that are approvable and and utilize the time to process.
It is actually meaningless unless they make it public - say - send a letter saying that your case is preadjudicated and all we are doing here is waiting for the number.
If it is something internal - then well as long as your file is lying on the shelf waiting for visa availability internal policies may change anytime.
The entire preadjudication thing was started at the peak of economic turmoil - some say it was planned to weed out as many bad apples as possible from the GC queue by issuing denials, noids and rfes - if this is the case - then this will continue to happen as long as economy does not improve and job market is still bad.
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at0474
03-21 11:37 AM
I just wanted update this thread with my experience. Could be helpful to people like me who searched many forums frantically. I have 10th year h1b extension valid upto 2010. Instead of going for stamping at US consulate in India, I decided to use advance parole. Most troubling thing about my history was that I had one dwi (Driving While Intoxicated with Alcohol) offense. It is not a deportable offense. However, I was concerned that it would show up at port of entry and they could ask me to go back for consulate processing. I kept all my case related court documents handy. This is very important for anyone travelling with dwi or other serious charges against them.
Officer directed me to the secondary inspection. Another officer there entered my information into the computer and after making gazillion keystrokes, he stamped my advance parole document/I-94 with 1 year validity. I got up from the chair when he called my name, walked upto his counter and took my documents from him. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. NO BIOMETRICS.
Hope this helps others.
Officer directed me to the secondary inspection. Another officer there entered my information into the computer and after making gazillion keystrokes, he stamped my advance parole document/I-94 with 1 year validity. I got up from the chair when he called my name, walked upto his counter and took my documents from him. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. NO BIOMETRICS.
Hope this helps others.
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Macaca
06-16 07:26 PM
Pending cases = EB + Family + Asylum + ... = Backlogged cases + Unripe cases = 1,275,795 (page 11) + 1,316,740 (Figure 1, page 14) = 2,592,535 (as of March 2007)
What is an unripe case?
even if the application or petition were approved today, a benefit could not be conferred for months or years to come. (page 11)
cases that do not have an available visa or an FBI name check, and cases that are in suspense for other reasons deemed beyond USCIS’ control (page 12)
What is an unripe case?
even if the application or petition were approved today, a benefit could not be conferred for months or years to come. (page 11)
cases that do not have an available visa or an FBI name check, and cases that are in suspense for other reasons deemed beyond USCIS’ control (page 12)
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styrum
02-08 04:12 PM
I filed an apeal for my first PERM too and preparing to file another one (through another company - you can't file another PERM via the same company while your first PERM is in appeal). Your's is there for longer than mine. I heard 4 to 6 months would be the time. Please let us know when and how yours is resolved.
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sayantan76
07-06 12:36 PM
Why not? Although I have applied for GC, I have no desire to take US citizenship, just to let you know. The majority does not mean the whole world and also does not mean everyone. There are Indian citizens that love India. Parents should be able to make decisions for their kids until they are 18. The kid can take US citizenship when he is 18 if parents have opted for Indian citizenship.
well said my friend and i agree with you completely. although, i grappled with this issue when we had a baby.......the question where i got stumped was - if i got Indian Citizenship for my child (born in US), what would be the child's legal status here? and, also if we were traveling outside the country - how would the child reenter US?
well said my friend and i agree with you completely. although, i grappled with this issue when we had a baby.......the question where i got stumped was - if i got Indian Citizenship for my child (born in US), what would be the child's legal status here? and, also if we were traveling outside the country - how would the child reenter US?
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sorcerer666
04-19 01:08 PM
What can Obama do when most of the Republicans are dead against the immigration reform. They didn't allow their own party president to pass the CIR. Do you think they will allow Obama to do it?
He won't be able to pass any new laws anymore, they can't even agree on a budget. Forget any other controversial topic. BUT , when he ran for the office, he had promised to fix "the broken immigration system" within the first year of his office. He hasn't kept many of his major promises and is highly doubtful to get re-elected if the Republicans have a strong candidate(disclaimer: Trump isn't a strong candidate)
We're bound to be in this rut for a very long time if we want to stay here!
He won't be able to pass any new laws anymore, they can't even agree on a budget. Forget any other controversial topic. BUT , when he ran for the office, he had promised to fix "the broken immigration system" within the first year of his office. He hasn't kept many of his major promises and is highly doubtful to get re-elected if the Republicans have a strong candidate(disclaimer: Trump isn't a strong candidate)
We're bound to be in this rut for a very long time if we want to stay here!
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msp1976
10-19 02:28 PM
My wife is has a bachelor's degree in Computer Science. She is on H4..She is at present pursuing her MS in Comp Sc..She would complete it next May..That degree is costing me a hand and a foot...
After that she is gonna start looking for a job...But the way the H1 caps are filling these days..I am not sure what would happen..
After that she is gonna start looking for a job...But the way the H1 caps are filling these days..I am not sure what would happen..
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svn
04-05 12:44 PM
All,
The object of this thread is straightforward - it is to understand if you as a donor member will contribute more $ (or start contributing!) if you get more regular information updates (weekly?) from Core? I know there was a funding drive in March which led to us meeting the goal of $10,000 (and then some). However, while there has been a new goal of $10,000 created for April, we have made little progress towards that. As someone who contributed $100 the first time round in March, but haven't yet made a contribution towards the April funding drive, I can admit that one of the primary reasons for this is because there has been very limited information shared since then. While I COMPLETELY trust in the fact that the Core team is making every effort humanly possible to further our cause, I am also a member of the human race that by nature seeks information and looks for leadership to be more sharing about progress. I personally believe transparency is a key enabler not just to gaining participation and building momentum, but also to creating innovative solutions to problems by engaging more individuals in the process (borrowing this "leaf" from President's Obama's playbook will be highly beneficial to our casuse)
Let me clarify this is NOT an indication of lack of trust in Core NOR do I believe that there isn't a sincere effort being put in by a whole bunch of dedicated individuals. However, my suggestion is simply an idea to further the cause - would definitely like to hear how the rest of this immigration community feels!
Thanks for your participation in this poll.
Cheers
P.S: Just to be clear, I am referring to Regular Updates to DONORS i.e CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS
The object of this thread is straightforward - it is to understand if you as a donor member will contribute more $ (or start contributing!) if you get more regular information updates (weekly?) from Core? I know there was a funding drive in March which led to us meeting the goal of $10,000 (and then some). However, while there has been a new goal of $10,000 created for April, we have made little progress towards that. As someone who contributed $100 the first time round in March, but haven't yet made a contribution towards the April funding drive, I can admit that one of the primary reasons for this is because there has been very limited information shared since then. While I COMPLETELY trust in the fact that the Core team is making every effort humanly possible to further our cause, I am also a member of the human race that by nature seeks information and looks for leadership to be more sharing about progress. I personally believe transparency is a key enabler not just to gaining participation and building momentum, but also to creating innovative solutions to problems by engaging more individuals in the process (borrowing this "leaf" from President's Obama's playbook will be highly beneficial to our casuse)
Let me clarify this is NOT an indication of lack of trust in Core NOR do I believe that there isn't a sincere effort being put in by a whole bunch of dedicated individuals. However, my suggestion is simply an idea to further the cause - would definitely like to hear how the rest of this immigration community feels!
Thanks for your participation in this poll.
Cheers
P.S: Just to be clear, I am referring to Regular Updates to DONORS i.e CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS
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ianlock
09-13 02:14 AM
your language stinks
my language stinks...oh no.... i used a bad word.... god forbid!!!
so how would you best describe them then???
wake up and smell the real world pal...
my language stinks...oh no.... i used a bad word.... god forbid!!!
so how would you best describe them then???
wake up and smell the real world pal...
Cheran
02-23 04:45 PM
my dear.. pretentious pseudo middle class desi...
i know ppl like you...
you wear an armani to office but still carrying curd rice and pickel for lunch...
you rejoice the success of slumDOG..with your liberal friends...with a martini glass filled with water..in hand..because ur amma told u not to drink alcohaal..;)
according to u ...we are losers because we dont like being called a DOG in 21st century...
if you want to wag ur skinny brown ass ..eveytime SlumDOG is uttered..thats ur problem..
Can't you write a simple sentence without offending others? Furthermore nothing makes sense in your post. What's wrong with eating curd rice and pickle? If I eat beef with my Armani suit then you will think off me differently? At least that guy makes a stand and not drink, I wonder what you do? You hit the pub with your parents? Moron.
Only in a Desi website you will find million different ways to butcher someone.
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i know ppl like you...
you wear an armani to office but still carrying curd rice and pickel for lunch...
you rejoice the success of slumDOG..with your liberal friends...with a martini glass filled with water..in hand..because ur amma told u not to drink alcohaal..;)
according to u ...we are losers because we dont like being called a DOG in 21st century...
if you want to wag ur skinny brown ass ..eveytime SlumDOG is uttered..thats ur problem..
Can't you write a simple sentence without offending others? Furthermore nothing makes sense in your post. What's wrong with eating curd rice and pickle? If I eat beef with my Armani suit then you will think off me differently? At least that guy makes a stand and not drink, I wonder what you do? You hit the pub with your parents? Moron.
Only in a Desi website you will find million different ways to butcher someone.
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delta3110
05-29 10:26 AM
This is the third time an Indian American has won the competition in a row.
BTW, the huge number of Indian American partcipants is not due to the fact that " Indian Americans" are brilliant... These children (at least most) are partcipating not becasue they have talent but they are being forced to by the aspirations of their parents.
All the Indian American children are crying, sitting on the lap of their parents etc... See any other kid who lost, they were cool.
BTW, the huge number of Indian American partcipants is not due to the fact that " Indian Americans" are brilliant... These children (at least most) are partcipating not becasue they have talent but they are being forced to by the aspirations of their parents.
All the Indian American children are crying, sitting on the lap of their parents etc... See any other kid who lost, they were cool.
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